Why thermal Casimir data favor the dissipationless plasma model · revision history
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- Why thermal Casimir data favor the dissipationless plasma model
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- The Casimir force between metals at room temperature depends on how electrons in the metal lose energy. Calculations using the standard description of a real, resistive metal disagree with most precision measurements, which instead match a description that ignores resistance.
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- Revision 1: Lifshitz theory for Au or Ni sphere-plate geometries at $T = 300\,\mathrm{K}$ and separations $2e-5\text{ to }1e-4\,\mathrm{cm}$: the Drude permittivity $\epsilon(\omega) = 1 - \omega_p^2/(\omega(\omega + i \gamma))$ removes the zero-frequency transverse-electric Matsubara term, while the plasma model ($\gamma = 0$) keeps it. Micromechanical, dynamic AFM and isoelectronic differential measurements agree with the plasma model and exclude Drude, whereas a torsion-pendulum measurement at larger gaps (Sushkov et al., 2011) favored Drude after subtracting electrostatic patch forces. An answer is a physical mechanism (spatial dispersion, surface states, low-frequency response) that reproduces the data while staying consistent with measured optical and dc conductivity, confirmed at separations above $3e-4\,\mathrm{cm}$ where the thermal term is large.
- Revision 2: Lifshitz theory for Au or Ni sphere-plate geometries at $T = 300\,\mathrm{K}$ and separations $2 \times 10^{-5}\text{ to }10^{-4}\,\mathrm{cm}$: the Drude permittivity $\epsilon(\omega) = 1 - \omega_p^2/(\omega(\omega + i \gamma))$ removes the zero-frequency transverse-electric Matsubara term, while the plasma model ($\gamma = 0$) keeps it. Micromechanical, dynamic AFM and isoelectronic differential measurements agree with the plasma model and exclude Drude, whereas a torsion-pendulum measurement at larger gaps (Sushkov et al., 2011) favored Drude after subtracting electrostatic patch forces. An answer is a physical mechanism (spatial dispersion, surface states, low-frequency response) that reproduces the data while staying consistent with measured optical and dc conductivity, confirmed at separations above $3 \times 10^{-4}\,\mathrm{cm}$ where the thermal term is large.
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- Revision 1: A measurement of the thermal Casimir force at gaps above 3e-4 cm with patch potentials characterized independently, plus a dielectric model that fits it and the metal's measured transport and optics.
- Revision 2: A measurement of the thermal Casimir force at gaps above $3 \times 10^{-4}$ cm with patch potentials characterized independently, plus a dielectric model that fits it and the metal's measured transport and optics.
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- phenomenon
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- Literature status
- contested
- Status note
- Nonlocal and surface-response resolutions were proposed in 2025 (J.-S. Wang, Physical Review B 111, 245404) and magnetic-metal data were reanalyzed in 2026 (Klimchitskaya, Korikov and Mostepanenko, Physics 8, 33, https://doi.org/10.3390/physics8020033); none is accepted.
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- 2000
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- Accept · 2026-10-15 · record